Preston Dennett besides being a ufo investigator is also an expert on the paranormal., and has appeared on many different tv documentaries and written quite a few books on paranormal subjects. http://www.prestondennett.com/

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The Audio Interview Will Be On Part III

Ken:

No, that is not what I am talking about. I am saying that, let me see if I can put this a little clearer. People that believe that they were reincarnated, believe that because they have memories from other people, but what if these memories were acquired and there was no passing of spirits? They were acquired through chemical or genetic means and the people acquired them without realizing it.

Preston Dennett:

Well you know that is definitely a theory that should be tested and we don't know for sure where these memories are coming from and how many people claim to be some famous personage in history, probably quite a few? Everybody can't be the same person, Joan of Arc or whatever, Marie Antoinette, you know what I am saying?

Ken:

I do.

Preston Dennett:

That seems to be happening. There is a number of people that are claiming I was John Lennon in a past life, or whatever. I don't know, that is a theory that I think we should look into.

Ken:

Well I have been exploring that theory for over 30 years.

It is said that spirits can take over objects. Have you ever observed this?

Preston Dennett:

Oh you know, that is an interesting phenomena as well, because I've got several cases where people say that their haunting began when they bought an antique object of some sort. One lady I know in Las Vegas, is really into native American art and she had to give up one of her pieces of native American jewelry, because as soon as she got it, her house broke out into this really intense haunting and she couldn't figure out what was happening and finally sought the help of a psychic, who told her it was a piece of jewelry that she had bought. There was only one, so she got the piece of jewelry and got rid of it and the haunting stopped. There are other cases like this, where people have a haunted chair, a haunted piano. There is another case and that one involved a haunted mirror. These people bought this mirror and it gave them the creeps and they started to have a lot of really weird stuff happen at their store, it was a book shop. They brought in a psychic. the psychic walked right up to the mirror and said this is it, this mirror is causing all the problems. It was some sort of portal and was used for mirror magic in the past. As the psychic was walking away, the mirror shattered into a bunch of little bits. I think ghosts do become attracted to objects. Perhaps they feel that they are still the proper owners of it. I don't know if they are possessing it in a sense. Ed and Lorraine Warren said that they had a case where a ghost possessed a doll. So I don't know, I think it is possible, but it just doesn't seem logical to me that a spirit is going to possess an object in a sense, where they live inside of it.

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Ken:

Let's see if I have this right. You're saying that the ghost comes with the object.

Preston Dennett:

Exactly. It's their mirror, it's their chair.

Ken:

Have you ever heard about anyone having a cordial relationship with a spirit? In other words, someone that has a ghost in their house that they actually converse with?

Preston Dennett:

There are several cases of people I have talked to who converse with the ghosts of their loved ones. One lady I talked to, her whole family are mediums. She said that she would walk in on her aunt all the time and her aunt would be sitting there having a conversation with her dead grandmother. She would be standing at the foot of the bed, or sitting on the bed in full color, just like a normal person and they would just have a normal conversation. There are an awful lot of cases like this, with people that are really closely related, or have some really strong love connection, a mother and a daughter, a husband and a wife, things like this. Yeah, I think that people can have absolutely cordial relationships with ghosts. I have talked to people that have told me their ghost encounters and when I go over they don't want anyone to try and get this ghost to go to the other side, they like having the ghost around. It is kind of like a friend. One lady I talked to, she was having ghostly experiences and was pretty scared of it at first, because she thought that someone was breaking into her house, a living robber. When she finally realized that it was a ghost, she was extremely relieved. She was very happy about it, because she thought that she was dealing with a stalker. For some reason, having an invisible stalker made her much less nervous.

Ken:

Haunted ships have been talked about for thousands of years and ships from World War II are no exception. It is said that the aircraft carrier USS Hornet is haunted. It is now a floating museum and the people that work on it claim that they have seen phantom officers and crew walking the halls and climbing on deck and not only that, but they claim that more and more ghosts are coming there that served on this ship. Have you heard of this and what do you think about it?

Preston Dennett:

I have heard about it, I have seen some programs on the USS Hornet and talked to some people. They have had a lot of stuff happen there. They have heavy chains on the ship and these chains have been pulled out. Apparently these people are still doing the job that they did when they were alive. Now that they are dead, they are still there on the ship doing it. I don't know if this is a case that would be considered a residual type haunting, because there was a lot of people on these ships, on that ship and other ships, closely packed together experiencing a lot of trauma? Ghosts don't always rush off to the other side when they die, they like to hang out where they lived, where they worked, where they spent most of their enjoyable time. For a lot of people that could be the ship where they were stationed on. That is probably what is happening on the Hornet. I do think that it is valid, what is going on there. It has happened to way too many people and the witnesses are pretty reputable military guys and obviously not lying. It is really a fascinating case. Your are right, there are a lot of haunted ships. What's really bizarre, when it comes to ghosts, there are ghost ships, the ship itself is a ghost. How can you explain that, I don't know? We have a lot to learn about ghosts. Ghosts don't appear naked, there are ghostly clothes, there are ghostly cars, there are ghostly houses, there is definitely a lot to learn.

Ken:

How many paranormal investigations have you participated in?

Preston Dennett:

I have done a few of what I would call formal ones, where I have been with groups and were done on instruments, but for the most part, most of the stuff that I do is pretty much going to the witnesses' house and just interviewing them and things like this. I have done scores of that type, probably close to a hundred. I would say more like a half dozen or a dozen formal type investigations.

Ken:

What was you most interesting investigation and why?

Preston Dennett:

That is a difficult question. I am going to say that the most interesting case for me was the White Witch of El Sobrante, because this one involved so many witnesses. This is a case involving a ghost, which has been appearing for years and years to a lot of people up in El Sobrante, California. As the story goes, there was an old lady who dabbled in black magic and that type of thing. She had a young daughter of dating age. One day this daughter brought home a sailor, a blond haired sailor. In the middle of the night a fire broke out in the home that was apparently caused by this sailor. The sailor fled the home, leaving the mother and the daughter to die in the fire. Ever since then, this lady, the White Witch, has been seen roaming the hills, looking for this blond sailor. There are a lot of people who have seen this ghost. There are two ladies on horseback, who were riding along when this ghost started to follow them. They galloped at high speed to get away and this ghost kept right up with them. Other people have seen it running through fields, playing with the cows, things like this. I talked to a group of young men who are actually musicians, they have a rock band. They wanted to find an inspiration for a song and they thought, oh let's write about the White Witch, as it's called. They decided to see if they could provoke the ghost into an appearance. One of these boys is blond and apparently this ghost likes blond boys. They just went out to this area, kind of on a lark, not thinking that anything would happen, but it did. No sooner had they gotten to this area, Alverado Park, the specific area, when they were out on a bench, just waiting and waiting and right about when they were going to leave they all got into the car and were ready to drive away, when this ghost appeared. They said that it was very tall, at least six feet tall and hovered about a foot off the ground. It was obviously a woman wearing a long flowing dress and appeared to give off glow, a white light. Two of the witnesses couldn't give me a good interview, because they said that they were so frightened that they didn't even want to look at this thing. They were screaming and all took off in the car and sped away. As soon as they got away from the area, they gathered their wits about them and talked and said, did we really see that, did that really just happen? Peer pressure, being what it is, they ended up turning around and going back to try and provoke this ghost into another appearance. They went to the same area right away and right after they got there, this ghost appeared again. It was a repeat scene, only this time they were even more scared. The ghost was not only appearing in one place, but in multiple locations all around them. It seemed to be intentionally trying to frighten them, which it did and again they ended up driving off in fear and not going back. Yeah that was a very interesting case that is apparently still on going. I heard that there is a book written about the case which is in the El Sobrante library, but I have not been able to locate it. It is a very interesting case, one of my favorites.

Ken:

Have you ever found that when you were on a paranormal investigation that people were trying to pull the wool over you eyes and the case was a set up, maybe to give a reputation that some place was haunted to improve business, or anything like that?

Preston Dennett:

No I haven't, no one has actually tried to hoax me or something like that. In some cases people actually think that they are having a paranormal phenomena when they aren't. They aren't actually trying to hoax, they just don't understand that just because a picture falls off of a wall, it is not necessarily a ghost that is doing it. No for the most part, I think that the people that I have contacted, or have contacted me are having genuine experiences. I don't think that the hoaxing is all that common, because people don't like to be associated with the phenomena first of all, because people think that they are crazy or hallucinating. Another thing is that people are frightened of the whole thing. For whatever reason, people find this whole subject very scary. I try and reassure them that they are dealing with people and the only fear you have is because you don't understand it. If we can remove the fear aspect, we can bring understanding to it. I don't think hoaxing is a big aspect in this research, certainly not like it is in ufo research, it is a lot more common there. As far as ghosts I don't think it is a big problem.

Ken:

Have you ever had a personal experience where you made physical contact with a spirit and if so, what happened?

Preston Dennett:

Yes I have actually and more than once. The first time was my absolute first ghost experience and my mom had just died and we were at the service, when I saw my dad drive up in a car and my mom was sitting right next to him in full color. She has a great posture and I recognized her instantly. No one else seemed to see her and when she got close she just sort of faded away. I didn't physically touch her there. There have been a number of other cases, where I have had contact with her spirit I think. There are a number of mediums that have given me messages from her. I feel her spirit around me because I had been trying to make contact with her. One time I was in my apartment and the light turned off and on and sort of flickered in a slow, strange way. It was obviously strange, I stood up and said, "is there anyone here?" At that exact moment my answering machine let out one long beep. The problem with that is, that I can't make my answering machine do that, no matter what button I pressed. So when all this happened I said, "ok mom, some of this is really ambiguous and can be interpreted different ways". I said that, "what I want you to do is take the bronze statues, the statues that I have in on my toilet, in the bathroom and move those. I know exactly what position they were in and if you move those I will know that it is you". I said this out loud and the next day I heard a loud crash coming form the bathroom. I ran into there and all the bronze statues were on the floor. These are little statues of animals, like a dragon, a fly, a frog, little statues, they are heavy enough where they don't move by themselves. As a matter of fact, that is the first thing I did. I put them back on the toilet, I jumped up and down, I banged on the walls to make these things fall down and they wouldn't come down. That was pretty dramatic and I believe that I actually did make some contact on that case. There have been other cases where I have been walking through haunted houses and my hair has been pulled. Someone pulls my hair, or someone will stick their finger in my armpit and makes me jump and spin around and there is no one there. Things like that have happened periodically. I think that one of the most dramatic, where I had a physical manifestation, was when I visited a phychic medium, this lady actually does table lifting, I don't know if you have heard of that?

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Ken:

Preston Dennett:

It's like a Ouija board. It is pretty much the same phenomena, except that they use a table. They get a bunch of people around a table, three, four, or five and they sit around this table. They call on spirits and try and get them to make knocking noises and even better, lift the table up and levitate it and that is what we did. I went to visit first, I saw this medium doing this with a group of four people, they all sat around a table, put their fingers on it and called on the spirits, "are there any spirits there, we want to communicate with you?". At that point the table began to shake and lifted up on two legs and it would jump up and down and about and I thought hummm, I don't know, I think that these guys might be hoaxing me, because it looked like they could be doing this with their own fingers. I was anxious to do this myself, when I finally got a turn to sit at the table, I knew instantly that it wasn't a hoax, because of the way the table moved, it jerked around under your fingers. You had a hard time keeping up with it, but in the interest of science, I had everyone move away from the table, except the medium and then I said okay, I have got my hands on the table and you place one hand on the table and see if you can make it rise? She did and it rose right up, I tried to do it myself and I couldn't do it. Then I said okay, just place one finger, one finger in the center of the table and see if it will go up. As soon as she placed her finger lightly on the table, it rose up forty five degrees sharply. It was obviously real.

Ken:

Well, can I interject here?

Preston Dennett:

Sure.

Ken:

Was the table ever checked out?

Preston Dennett:

Oh yeah.

Ken:

I mean that this particular thing is on record, I don't want to say a hoax, but these tables are on record as having magnets in them and on the floor or under the floor, a reverse polarity magnet, that when it is turned on, it is an electric magnet that when it is turned on, it can lift a table and make it go sideways. I was wondering if the table was checked out to see if anything was between the panels of wood or anything?

Preston Dennett:

Not only did I check it out, I insisted on using other tables and going to other locations. I brought a compass, I brought all these instruments and I was not able to detect anything like that. I was actually able at one point to do it myself, without the help of the medium. I was never able to do that again.

Ken:

Well that is interesting.

Preston Dennett:

I talked to other people that were doing it and the mediums as well and they said that they could actually feel the energy come through them. What is really interesting, depending with the spirit that you allegedly spoke with, the table would move and behave very differently, like with one person who committed suicide, it was a very gentle table, but another guy who died violently, the table would bank and levitate and go across the room. We could barely keep up with it. It was really quite extraordinary.

Ken:

Where is the most haunted place that you can think of?

Preston Dennett:

The most haunted place that I can think of? The Queen Mary is one of them I would say. There are a number of hotels across the United States that are extremely haunted. The Myrtles Plantation, I believe that is in Georgia, or Alabama, or maybe it is in Louisiana, I forget, but that is an extremely haunted place. There is another place in Scotland, gosh, I wish I could remember the name of it. It is extremely haunted and they put ghost tours there and pretty much every time something happens. There are a lot of haunted places all over the place. There are a lot more than people realize.

Ken:

Do you think that the paranormal is tied into ufos in any way?

Preston Dennett:

I do, I do Ken and I wish I knew the answer, because I have talked to.....this is how I got into it I started interviewing people about their ufo experiences and in the interest of being completely fair I would ask them if they had any other paranormal experiences, or something that they can't explain. So many of these people have seen ghosts, or had an out of body experience, or near death experience. There are a lot of people that have seen a ufo and then days later, their house is hit with this poltergeist like activity. I think that there is a connection and I don't know exactly what it is. My theory is that ufos are attracted to people that have phychic abilities, or that in other cases the trauma of having a ufo experience opens up these abilities in people. So suddenly they will be abducted by aliens and the next thing, they will be having ghost problems. I don't know what their connection is, but I am sure that there is one.

Ken:

When people think of ghosts or spirits, I think that they tend to believe that Europe has more hauntings than anywhere else, do you believe this is true?

Preston Dennett:

I do and especially England. I think that the reason for this is, because there has been more people living there in a more dense population than here in the United States. Certainly we do have ghosts here. Native American ghosts, ghosts of miners, ghosts of pioneers. In England ghosts seem to be the word of the day. I talked to a lady who had never seen a ghost, she went to England and made the mistake of telling her uncle that she didn't believe in ghosts. He said, "are you kidding, there are twenty places within a mile of here that are haunted and I am going to show them to you". That is exactly what he did. He took her to see the Hangman's Noose, which was one, where you can actually hear this person being hung. There was another, where you could see ghostly horses and she could see these ghostly horses run across a field. There was another where he took her to this old abbey, sort of an abandoned church and he said that there are ghostly monks here, just wait and we will see those too. Sure enough these apparitions, these ghostly monks, appeared. She was totally convinced of course and promised never to doubt him again. Yeah she saw four or five ghosts in one day.

Ken:

Would you tell my audience the steps to a paranormal investigation?

Preston Dennett:

Oh absolutely, if you are going to investigate the paranormal, the first thing that you need is calm. You want to keep your emotions in check and not jump to any conclusions and you want to bring in as much electromagnetic instrumentation, instruments that you can afford. You will want to bring a thermometer, because ghosts do have the ability to change the temperature and they use heat energy to manifest. When the temperature of a place suddenly drops, this can be a clue that a ghost is about to manifest. This can be easily measured with a thermometer. Cameras, infrared, digital, all kinds of cameras you can bring are a very good tool. Audio recorders are another thing that you want to bring, because they can capture EVP phenomena I think the best instrument to bring is a medium, another person, who actually had the reputation for being able to contact spirits and if you can bring in two mediums separately, then that's excellent, because you can get independent confirmation, not only from two mediums, but from your actual instruments that you brought along. You will want to interview all the witnesses separately, record your interviews and then interview them again, because people don't often tell you the whole story the first time, because they want to test the waters and see if you are going to believe them. They would want to go to the library and research the history of an area, go on the internet and talk to the neighbors. There are all sorts of avenues that need to be followed up, when you are doing a paranormal investigation.

Ken:

Do you think that it is possible that when we die, we just go to another dimension and that sometimes we become visible to the living, if the circumstances are correct?

Preston Dennett:

I am sure that is exactly what is happening. We do go to another dimension and there is a lot of evidence to support this, to support life after death. Not only from ghosts, but from mediums, out of body explorers, all sorts of stuff. I think that is exactly what ghosts are, they suddenly become visible for whatever reason. I don't know why some people see ghosts and others don't? Why some ghosts are transparent and others are completely physical looking? My sense is that when you are on the other side, everything is very physical looking and that the reason that it appears transparent to us is, because it is at a different vibration, whereas the ghosts that are looking at us from the other side probably see us as less than physical, or as transparent, because we are at a completely different vibratory level. It works both ways I think.

Ken:

Some people say that once you use a Ouija Board, it is very hard to get rid of the spirit that you summoned, do you think that this is true?

Preston Dennett:

Yes and no. I think that the Ouija Board is just a piece of wood for one thing. It doesn't have any special powers in and of itself, so whatever is happening with the Ouija Board is because of the person itself. who is bringing the spirits, not the board. On the other hand, like I said, I talked to a lot of people that have used Ouija Boards and regretted it, because they caused a bad haunting. It is pretty easy actually, to close these doors from the other side that you have opened up. A lady I went to was a medium and she would be table lifting. She went through a whole ritual every time, where she would clear the room of spirits using a white light meditation, which was very important to do. If you don't do it, you will have some problems and she did have some problems a couple of times when she forgot to do it. She had an unexplained fire in her kitchen. She had some weird noises going on in her house and one time she had a really evil presence. She was able to get rid of this by just doing this white light meditation. So I do think that for some ghosts it is a problem getting rid of them. It is also quite possible to get rid of them as well.

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