John Hutchison is a world famous inventor who experiments with antigravity and zero point energy. The Hutchison Effect has been named after him.

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Outside John Hutchison's Lab Apartment

John Hutchison:

I think it would be in the areas of antigravity and also in projected energy research. They recently showed one of my videos at the Pentagon to an audience of 400 people and it got a standing ovation, according to Timmy Ventura of American Antigravity. He sent me that in writing and I posted it on my blog site. I have been approached by the Pentagon through Major Garritson and his group. I can work with them, but as I said I like my freedom. I like doing these TV shows all of the time, because I get such a positive feedback from emails, from people that have seen the shows. I even got an email from a Commander in the Navy who loved the show and wants me to send him an extended video. The controversy people I never hear about. They always hang around the Discovery Channel's forum on yours truly. I don't know what these people want, maybe they're competition. I have a few cyber stalkers that don't want me on radio, on Coast to Coast and that.

Ken:

Really!

John Hutchison:

Oh Yeah. they would do anything to try and stop me from getting on.

Ken:

Well how do they try and stop you from getting on the radio and TV?

John Hutchison:

They imitate different people and have about a hundred different email addresses. They send these emails to all different people to get them to put them up on their blog sites and all over the place. It got to the point, where a couple of years ago I was with a lady and this person who was also a lady herself and used to be with VP, Lou Gentile's radio show. She didn't want us to have any success, so it got so hot that May Johnson of Paramount Productions, called us up. Mae Johnson wanted us to go down to LA and appear on Judge Judy and she would invite this other person from Minnesota and we would have it out in the courtroom. It never happened, because this person backs away and disappears over time. This person is probably responsible for a lot of problems and disinformation.

Ken:

That is too bad.

John Hutchison:

Yes.

Ken:

Maybe now you can give us the story about the Canadian government going into your apartment and tell us exactly what they did?

John Hutchison:

Well I had that happen three times actually. Once back in 1978, when they came in and took my entire antique gun collection. They put me in jail for 10 hours and then let me go. They couldn't find anything to charge me with. I had some really high powered lawyers and had the total support of the Canadian gun collectors and everything was returned back to me after two years. Number two was when I was in Germany. They broke in and took the main laboratory plus all the machine tools. This is when I was in Germany and it made front page news in all the Vancouver newspapers. This was not a good thing and I read about it when I was in Germany. We had lawyers to try and protect it and we had a court order. None of that worked, so I got back here under threat of being arrested. I was given the documents of what happened by the lawyers and also by the Canadian government. They said it will be something to tell your grandchildren about and I said okay, I'm going back to Europe since I'm not welcome even in my own country. Other things happened in my life and I didn't go off to Germany, I started working here and got stuck in New Westminster. I started rebuilding the lab up without really intending to, being a prolific collector of things. I was tuned in that direction, to get these things and eventually I was able to do demonstrations in 2000 again. Oddly enough at that time, the New Westminster police came here and said we want to take a look at your antique gun collection. They returned them later, but they took photos of everything in here. They said they couldn't find any problems in here. I guess it was a sort of a bona fide, gee this guy is too weird for us, we better check things out in here, sort of thing. That could be that, but the next time it was kind of funny, because I had a film producer here, he was witnessing some of the effects. His name was Jim Cherry. I had just finished up with Fox television and they were saying not to tell the media, we're going to return all your antique weapons, which they did do. There was no explanation as to why they took so many photographs in here. I got some of the stuff back, the reports and that, from the freedom of information act, but no photographs.

Ken:

Well correct me if I am wrong, but do you feel that they just used that as an excuse so that they can take pictures in your apartment?

John Hutchison:

I think so, that is what a lot of people say.

Ken:

Why do you think that Marc Millis, who used to run the breakthrough propulsion physics program for NASA was so critical of your work?

John Hutchison:

In the beginning he was not critical, then he turned extremely critical. I just don't know why, I don't know what is going on in his head, because I have many other NASA scientists that are highly supportive of my work. They even presented it to NASA on the weekend, to get funding for it so it could get off the ground. Duke Phonestein at the Kennedy space Center was all excited about it, but the main director said, we had to stay on our own budgets and projects and go ahead with them, so I got a letter of apology from Duke Phonestein saying that the director felt exactly the way I said, saying that he had to stay on his own budget. Marc, I don't know, maybe he's jealous, I never met the guy. I just don't know why.

Ken:

Do you think that since energy can't be destroyed, that it all goes to another dimension and this is where zero point energy comes from?

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John Hutchison:

That's the main theme of science now. There are quantum scientists and this science has been broadcast on discovery and it's all over the news about exactly what you just said. There are other dimensions. It has been proven through mathematical models like the Desi Company in Germany, that there are other dimensions and this whole area is opening up extremely fast, to the point were I am getting news bulletins where they say that they have discovered antigravity, which I put on my blog site. They have discovered zero point energy and other things that are just making headway here. It is very interesting.

Ken:

You once said that you could explain the technology behind UFOs. I would like to give you a chance to do that.

John Hutchison:

Okay, it is just basically reverse gravity. Gravity can be like a magnetic field, two magnets pull each other together and if you reverse them they separate really fast, so what antigravity basically is, is a funnel type system where gravitons are reversed and you have great energy propulsion and you can get up to a speed that is way beyond the speed of light. They can do that with antigravity as I described it and they have other sources of energy that can deflect micro meteors of course and open up other areas like key dimensions. depending on..., well it's like I know these guys I really don't know them, I never met an alien but there are.....

Ken:

I was just about to ask you about that that, it was the next question. Do you think that UFOs are piloted by aliens or that they are secret government projects?

John Hutchison:

They are a combination of both really. I have seen one down in Phoenix, Arizona. It was a triangle shaped thing with lights all around it. I can't tell you if it was a drone that was being tested or something from another planet.

Ken:

When you say you saw it in Phoenix, do you mean that you happened to have been in the area or that you were on a military base?

John Hutchison:

Oh no, I have a girlfriend and I was staying with her there for six months and she sees them too and has taken an extensive amount of photographs of them. I saw them also. I saw the triangular shaped thing and other things. Down in that area, it is rather a common thing to see.

Ken:

During the Phoenix Lights incident, it turned out to be two events that were actually merged into one. There was a black triangular craft that had been seen and then the military dropped flares and the two events got merged together and everybody thought it was just a flare event. She might have seen a UFO at that time?

John Hutchison:

It was definitely a UFO. I saw it coming in behind me, when I was on the computer in her office. Two of them came up from the south and came up really fast behind me, so I got Lisa to get the camera and take pictures of them. The CIA documents that I have from my privacy coordinator, John M. Wright, said here is all that has been released to you for $89.10. I could've had the option of going and photocopying them. I could've gone there and bragged that I was at the CIA I guess, but I didn't. I got the money order and paid for all this stuff and I was surprised to get all this neat stuff that wasn't blocked out.

Ken:

Do you think that there are any more scientists or inventors that have made progress in the field of antigravity?

John Hutchison:

Oh there are a lot of gifted people that are around, but I think Ken Shoulders is doing very well on his research and Dr. Elizabeth Anne Rauscher Colonel Alexander and a few others are doing very exotic things. They are low-profile. I am more of a showman. I just like to show it off. I like to say hey guys, I can do it. The film industry and Hollywoodland pay good bucks and it is a lot of fun and there is no stress.

Ken:

When one looks at the results of your experiments, such as metal becoming embedded in metal and such, that person just has to think about the Philadelphia experiment, where it was said that humans actually became embedded in the deck of a ship known as the USS Eldridge. Do you feel that there is a chance that these experiments might ready have been conducted on a larger scale, by the US government during World War II?

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John Hutchison:

Oh I am sure of that. I have seen and read about that, it was one of the hottest topics at that time, invisibility and camouflaging. I have a friend, Dr. Ron Millioeni who does the show Ghost Hunters, but also he works at BAE Systems for the government. He is a very brilliant fellow and we actually worked together on our own network TV show for Fox TV, but not with Paris Hilton doingthe hosting, no way. We were going to do 22 episodes and the first episode was going to be the Philadelphia experiment and we worked together and found multiple solutions about how to replicate it. I replicated a small version of it here, a foot long model of a warship and the thing was shooting off lightning bolts, it phased in and out of existence and luckily it was caught on video. I think it was also caught on video by Motion Picture Production's Earth's Black Holes, at least I hope it was. It was filmed last year. also by Impact Motion Pictures. This technology does actually exist and Ronnie and I were going to do a full scale ship, we were that bold. We are still waiting for our producer Robert Drake to get us signed up. Our carrying show is called the race for space. It is a big multi-budget reality type TV show, where people trained to be astronauts and they already have the spaceships. They had some setbacks, one of the rockets blew up in the Mojave Desert, killing three people.

Ken:

Yeah you're talking about Applied Composites right?

John Hutchison:

With....

Ken:

Dick Rutan.

John Hutchison:

Oh yeah, right.

Ken:

Am I right?

John Hutchison:

Which one?

Ken:

Applied Composites run by Dick Rutan, the great aviation designer. He made the rocket that won the X-prize.

John Hutchison:

Oh right, yes. It was Russ Burton, a gentleman I know, that had a heart attack a month ago so that delayed the project. Now I am told by Robert Drake that the whole project is back on track. It should be about three months until we're on it. They are the ones that are carrying our show, once it connects into Fox, then we are promised that our show with Ronnie and myself, the Hutchison effect, networks. That is going to be funny, it is really going to be tough work doing this stuff and going into production, it is really going to be exhausting. It will be a lot of fun though and we will do it. so that is our main carrying show. The other interesting thing that I have done was rebuild the Ark of the Covenant, for Bluebook Films on the Discovery Channel network. That was a blazing success, I must say.

Ken:

What did the Arc do?

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John Hutchison:

It literally let off lightning bolts. It scared everybody around, but not the cameraman, not Rudy. It scared me a little bit too and my girlfriend at the time, who didn't know how to use a fire extinguisher. It really shot spark's out, it really captured it all. We had a massive rap party, it was a wonderful success. It was done in the Metal Supermarket actually, not here. It was very impressive, I was impressed.

Ken:

That's great.

Going back to the work that you did with the model of the ship, I just have to ask this question. Did the ship move from one area to another?

John Hutchison:

It did move on its own. The water itself started lifting up from the tray that it was in and there was this lightning running around the side of the ship. It's hard to describe it, I know that out on the Internet there are videos of it somewhere.

Ken:

What I really mean is, did it dissolve and reappear somewhere else?

John Hutchison:

It didn't go anywhere else that I am aware of.

Ken:

Well that is the legend of the Philadelphia experiment, that the ship disappeared and reappeared hundreds of miles away.

John Hutchison:

Wouldn't that be terrible?

( we both laughed here )

I could've at least put a note on it that said please return it to me. No it didn't relocate, although we had other things do that over the years, they would vanish and then reappear somewhere else.

Ken:

The antigravity device that the Nazis were experimenting with, which is known as the Nazi Bell, had counter rotating parts to create a sort of torque effect that was said to defy gravity. Does your device operate on the same principle or does it do something completely different?

John Hutchison In His Lab In 2003

John Hutchison:

What the Nazi Belt thing was, was basically rotating mercury, one way and the other way. No I don't do that kind of stuff. I have more or less copied the energy signatures of it and replicated them by RF generation equivalent and by microwave equivalent.

Ken:

You have been on Several TV channels such as Discovery, The Learning Channel, National Geographic and even Nippon TV. Do you believe that the reason you have been on so many TV programs is that people believe that the results of your experiments have been suppressed and disinformation is being put out about them?

John Hutchison:

I I have a very large following of fans, young people and people of any age even the military. It is odd to describe it, they liked looking at this crazy nut, meaning me. I mean here is this crazy guy running around and doing all this stuff, it is very different and unusual and he does it on his own, without big funding sources. I guess that is maybe why they like it. I have often asked myself, why do people like this kind of stuff? It inspires me that if they like this, then folks would like to see what other people are doing in other areas. There are a lot of interesting folks out there who are doing fascinating things. The network TV show would be fun.

Ken:

Oh I think so too, I know I'm going to look at it.

John Hutchison:

To see what they're doing?