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INTERVIEW With Timothy Good, October 9, 2007
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Timothy Good is a famous British ufo investigator and the author of many ufo books. His latest, "Need To Know" is due out at the end of this month and is a must read. It contains many interesting new facts and will have you wondering why we never knew about some of these things and where are we headed as a race?

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Timothy Good's latest book that is coming out at the end of this month. It is fascinating and I used it as a basis of many of my questions. The book is "Need To Know" and the publisher is Pegasus Books.

The following is the interview that took place between Mr. Good and myself on October 8, 2007:

Ken:

Well one thing I have noticed is that, at least with the American military, they have tried to harden all their electronic and computer parts in all of their planes. Now it makes me wonder if really the main reason they were doing this is because of ufo attacks?

Timothy Good:

Um, Ken you could be right, I hadn't though of that, but what I do know of course is that there are EM effects from the weapons that the military has, certainly not .., I forget the name of the experiment.

Ken:

Well they get EM when they explode nuclear weapons too.

Timothy Good:

Right, Okay, but I know that there was some tests being done, I am sorry I can't....EMP! Electro Magnetic Pulse have been conducted before, for decades.

Ken:

Yes they claim...

Timothy Good:

They need to be able to counter that, so that might equally well involve Electro Magnetic Pulse guns we are using, perhaps to counter the alien threat. There are all sorts of possibilities, the sky's open, but there is definitely a conflict and that is one of the reasons, in my opinion for the extreme secrecy attached to the subject.

Ken:

One thing that caught my eye was that you talked about Project Blue Book, giving camera set ups to a B-36 bomber that photographed a large ufo. Now most of us that know anything about ufos have always thought that Project Blue Book was impotent. They really didn't do anything except...

Timothy Good:

There was a public Project Blue Book and there was a covert Project Blue Book. Indeed there were many compartments, sometimes consisting of just 3 or 4 people, high powered scientists. I've listed some of the various projects at that time that were going on and there was a special group within Blue Book. I've given some of the details of that in the book, I don't know if I can lay my hands on it but, I have produced a document in connection with submarine encounters with ufos or usos in 1952 and I reproduced an interesting document which I got under the Freedom of Information Act decades ago, Its very interesting because...if I can just find the right page here, I wish I had a photographic memory.

Ken:

Don't we all.

Timothy Good:

Anyway if I can't find it, it was a top secret group within Blue Book and I think it was AFOIN-X(SG) or something like that. I'm probably just coming up to it but, no guarantee, no I can't....I think its in a chapter on naval intelligence. Sorry I can't find it.

Ken:

That's quite alright.

Timothy Good:

It just difficult with the phone in one hand and the...

Ken:

Of course.

B-36 Peacemaker
Photo Source: US Air Force

Timothy Good:

Well in any event, to answer the other part of your question, which was about Blue Book itself and you wanted to know about this case, the sort of Dakota's case, becaue it was between North and South Dakota, of an RB36H Peacemaker 10 engined bomber, which had provisions for carrying nuclear weapons. There is not a precise date given, but Richard Haines and others investigated this case and he spoke to at least one of the crew members and its very convincing. This bomber encountered a ufo, which came alongside. It was about 100 feet in diameter, not that high actually and there were lots of colored lights along the rim blinking in sequence and about 3 portholes on a low dome on top of this thing. The interesting thing is that there was a 17 man crew on board as well as I think, a 5 man relief crew, something like that on board and they all saw this thing and it was there, I guess, for about 8 minutes. During this time these guys on board took photographs and I guess with special cameras and I know that they were given to them by Blue Book intelligence officers to take photographs in the event of such an encounter. Sure enough this happened and as soon as they landed everything was confiscated. Hopefully we will view them someday.

Ken:

I am going to ask you something out of sequence here, because I am very interested in this question. The NASA space program seems to be going nowhere as far as manned exploration is concerned, but I've always had the feeling that maybe there is a covert military program and that program has already landed people on Mars and built bases on the Moon and we just don't know about it.

Timothy Good:

I tend to go along with that Ken, I can't say that I know that for sure, but that's my guess too. There is a public NASA and there is a very private, very secret NASA, there is no question about that in my mind.

Ken:

One of the things that seems to have convinced me about this, is something that you probably don't know anything about, because it is on my website. I was going through the pictures from the 2 rovers that are on Mars and I found a perfect foot print in the soil on Mars. I've made it available to anyone that wants to look at it on my site and it seems to be a dress shoe of all things.

Timothy Good:

Okay, I'll take a look at it if you can, you know, send me that link,.if you haven't already.

Ken:

No I haven't, but I will though if you are interested, sure.

Timothy Good:

Sure.

Ken:

You cite several instances of US presidents either meeting with aliens, or viewing their dead bodies. There is also a story that President Nixon took comedian Jackie Gleason to see the bodies of aliens.

Timothy Good:

That's right, well that's not published for the first time, that was at Homestead Air Force Base in Florida and Gleason came back and his wife confirms that he was white as a sheet and quite shocked and that is how she described that story.


Former President Nixon
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Ken:

Now here is the thing, I have read many times that US Presidents were kept out of the ufo loop, and a story comes to mind about then President Carter going to Bush at the time who was the head of the CIA, I believe, and asking for more information on ufos and being shut out, you know.

Timothy Good

Well I wouldn't be surprised, but certainly not all presidents are briefed fully and I think a few of them are not briefed at all necessarily. Clinton being one, he tried, but presidents that haven't served in the military are not very popular with the guys controlling the situation, and Clinton certainly wasn't. There is brand new information that I got from a very reliable source who was attached to the White House Staff and particularity connected with Air Force One, informed me that in 1961, 1962, President Kennedy requested to be taken to see the alien bodies and craft and his wish was granted and it was a top secret mission and I was not given dates and all I know was that I was given the name of one person, which unfortunately, I misspelled in the book. I was told it was McCue and that was the name that was given to me, but the chap questioned the spelling afterwards and in fact it was McHugh. General Godfrey T. McHugh was in charge of this top secret mission, along with many other generals on the plane and JFK was taken to Tyndall Air Force Base in Florida, to a small medical facility and I don't know any more than that I am afraid. In view of later developments there might well be a connection there in my opinion, based on what I have learned.

Ken:

Well for those of us that are old enough enough to remember Stuart Whitman, I don't know if you are, but I certainly am, tell us the story about his encounter with these aliens.

Timothy Good:

My goodness, this was, if I can find it, in 1965. I believeIt was during the great black out in the northeast.

Ken:

I know that well.

Timothy Good:

Yeah. I've got it here, here we are, page 254. He was staying in New York at the time and I can remember the stories in the American press about all that, but I thought for the first time I would include the story since so few people seem to be aware of it and it was actually November, it was the great American power blackout of the 9th of November and Stuart Whitman was alone in his hotel room in New York City during the blackout and was awoken just before dawn by a whistling sound by his 12th floor window, outside of which 2 strange objects could be seen. One of them was orange and one was blue, he explained to reporters. They gave off a strange luminescent light so he couldn't see if there were portholes or who was in them. He heard them speaking as if they were on a loud speaker and they spoke to him in English. It may not have been audible to anyone else, he said. I was probably tuned into the right wave length. They said that they wanted to talk to me, because I appeared to have no malice or hate in my soul. They said that they were fearful of Earth, because Earthlings were messing around with unknown quantities that might disrupt the balance of the universe or their planet. They said that the blackout was just a little demonstration of their power and that they could do a lot more with almost no effort. It served as a warning, they said, that they could stop our whole planet from functioning. They asked me to do what I could to fight malice, prejudice and hate on Earth, and then they took off. I felt elated, he continued, I wasn't even shocked. I was standing by the window and awake the entire time. I don't know why they picked me as a contact, but I'll swear on the bible that I saw them out there and that they talked to me.

Ken:

That is quite a story.

Timothy Good:

Isn't it?

Ken:

It sure is.

Timothy Good:

I wonder if he is contactable these days?

Ken:

I don't even know if he is alive, do you?

Timothy Good:

I don't. I think I'll have to Google him.

Ken:

Yeah, that's a great idea. I would be interested in what he has to say too. You talk about ufo activity in the Vietnam War. Could you tell us some of the biggest cases that you know about?

Timothy Good:

One of the most interesting ones was given to me by Commander Will Miller, Willard Miller. He was one of the disclosure project witnesses. He gave me this story. I went specially to meet in Florida to get this story from him. He said that he was onboard the USS Leary, a US Navy destroyer during the 1969 cruise in the Vietnam War.(Reading a passage from Need To Know) Will was an Ensign at that time, US Naval Reserve, now retired at the rank of Commander. He and some crew members saw an object at a distance in the Gulf of Tonkin and above the ground and they thought that they were sort of Vietnamese fishing craft with lights and things, but then this thing started moving around with a completely different glow than the one coming from the fishing boat. It then came towards them and moved from above the water to below. It entered the water and moved rapidly toward our destroyer at 45 degrees to the bow, passing directly beneath the ship. We ran to the starboard side to see if the object had emerged, but there was nothing. Nothing was seen on our sonar, our surface radar, our electronic counter measures system. What ever it was, it wasn't a submarine. We decided against waking the captain, but I decided that a deck log entry be made of the event, since we were required like all naval vessels to report any unusual observations.

All the ship's official logs were always re transcribed for official submission, this was what Will told me. Years later I reviewed USS Leary's logs at the US Naval HIstorical Center for the period of the incident, but there was absolutely no record of the event in the official log book. Now this is actually quite common.

Ken:

Yes it is quite common

Timothy Good:

:I have many cases in the book, including a case in 1971 on a huge destroyer, in which the logs were either changed or just....


USS Roosevelt
Photo Source: USCG

 

Ken:

This was a very common practice on the aircraft carrier Roosevelt. They saw many ufos.

Timothy Good:

Absolutely. There are some correlations of the low level sightings over aircraft carriers, like in 1971, when I got a detailed report from an officer that held a top secret clearance, when a huge ufo disrupted all operations on the aircraft carrier John F. Kennedy. That's a very compelling case and I think that what's at issue here and what was of interest to those ufos is that those carriers were probably carrying hydrogen weapons That is just my opinion, they are just letting us know that they know and that they can paralyze all our systems, you know, if it came to it. There is also this report in the book by a general at a press conference about ufos and this is a 1973 press conference. General George Brown who was Chief of Staff of the Air Force at the time. He was asked about what was the US Air Force's position on the ufo business? (Reading from Need To Know) I don't know whether this story has ever been told or not, replied the general, they weren't called ufos, they were called enemy helicopters. They were only seen at night and only seen in certain places. They were seen up around the demilitarized zone in the early summer of 68 and this resulted in quite a little battle. In the course of this, an Australian destroyer took a hit. We never found any enemy, we only found ourselves, when this was sorted out. This caused some shooting there and there was no enemy at all and we always reacted and it was always after dark. He said that they had moved the radar in and the army stared to work and we finally got that radar out of there and they quit worrying about their problem. Anyway it goes on, but I think obviously there was a lot of stuff going on in Korea and in the Second World War.

Ken:

I think now we are getting more sophisticated and we realize what is going on.

Timothy Good:

Yes, yes indeed.

Ken:

I was interested in that paragraph where you talked about a triangular craft, which we think of as mostly just sailing across the sky noiselessly and not bothering anybody, attacking a Russian radar facility.

Timothy Good:

Yes.

Ken:

Maybe you could tell us a little bit about that?

Timothy Good:

Yes. This was in 1989, 1990, something like that. I need to find the page.

Ken:

You have a great memory I must say.

Timothy Good:

Well thank you very much Ken, but at the same time I am checking in the book for all the facts, since I like to get my facts right for your audience and I think it was at a place called Kuybyshev in September of 1990. This is a very interesting case. It was given to me by a journalist and engineer, a great friend of mine Nikolay Lebedev in St. Petersburg. He investigated this case. It happened on the 13th of September at a radar station 800 kilometers east, southeast of Moscow, where the radar picked up a large target at a range of no more than a hundred kilometers. It seems to scatter on the screen and at 42 kilometers it changed into a strong signal representing an isosceles triangle. Men came out of the underground bunker and the unknown object passed directly over them at about ten meters. This is what some of the military men said. "We could see it clearly since the perimeter of the base is always lit by searchlights". The bottom of the object was smooth, but not mirror like, it was like a thick layer of soot. We did not notice any openings, portholes, or landing gear, but we saw 3 whitish blue beams of light. The corners of the object were slightly rounded. Now two soldiers, two sentries were sent to investigate, because this was a radar station, a portable radar unit. To cut a long story short, this thing actually landed by the fence near the short range radar post and it beamed light toward the number 12 radar unit and destroyed it and the beam of light, interestingly, passed right through one of the sentries without injuring him, so it had absolutely no effect. Other people who were there at the time had missing time, they disappeared. Extraordinary case.

Ken:

Yes it certainly is.

Timothy Good:

They said that each side of the triangle was about 50 meters in length and that about 50 yards I think. It landed with a soft rustling sound. The thickness of the triangle was about 10 feet. A v
ery, very interesting event.


Radar Screen
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